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TESTOSTERON (TESTOVIRION)| INJECTABLE STEROIDS | HORMONES
Haven't received registration validation E-mail? User Control Panel Log out. Forums Posts Latest Posts. View More Photo Galleries. Forum Themes Elegant Mobile. Medichecks - The stress free, speedy way to get a comprehensive, accurate insight into your health. Our tests include Sports Hormone checks, testosterone, iron status, cholesterol and more. Essentials Only Full Version. Your actually gona take gear target for animals? I would worry about getting some weird animal hormone.
Sorry mate this is bad advice. Nolva is very poor at reducing bloat. You need to run mg of Proviron a day to prevent bloat and prevent gyno. Save Nolva till when its needed, but if your running Proviron you will never need it.
Sust is testosterone, so is enanthanate. No more risk of gyno on enanthanate than sust really. Craig05 yea, spoke to bbigman and he suggested enanthate, i read up on it and i think iread that there was either more risk of gyno which scares the hell out of me, or that there was more water retention which i dont want.
Sorry to do this again but it is a proven fact that Sust is considerably milder than enanthate. Here is a quote As with all testosterone products, Sustanon is a strong anabolic with pronounced androgenic activity. It is mainly used as a bulking drug, providing good gains in strength and muscle mass. Although it does convert to estrogen, as is the nature of testosterone, this injectable is noted as being slightly more tolerable than cypionate or enanthate.
Such observations are only issues of timing however. With Sustanon, blood levels of testosterone are building more slowly, so side effects do not set in as fast. For equal blood hormone levels however, testosterone will break down equally without regard to ester. Also correlating with estrogen, water retention would be noticeable with Sustanon, unless steps were taken to minimize estrogen.
Any difference at all will be miniscule tbh merely from slightly different timescales in metabolism relating to the ester. Its fair to assume that mg sust will yield the same effects and side effects for the same individual as mg enan or cyp. With respect mate if you take the time to check EVERY single site which gives a description on gear they will all pretty much say the same.
One is worse than the other. It may not be by much granted Can I only assume every site is wrong then. I aint really got time to post links to prove my point, but I am sure you can see where I am going with this. For Strength i'd go with Anavar. I know some people that took parabolan and thier strength went up like crazy. I wouldn't mind trying it if the side effects fit my criteria. Craig05 so what are the differences between enanthate and sustenon? Testosterone Ester Report One of the most misunderstood subjects in the world of steroids is the ester--the mechanism by which injectable esterified steroids like testosterone cypionate, testosterone enanthate, and Sustanon work.
If you take a quick look around the Internet you will probably find countless articles that consider one form of a steroid far more effective than another. Arguments over the superiority of cypionate to enanthate, or Sustanon to all other testosterones are of course very common.
Such arguments are in all practicality, baseless. In this report we'll take an authoritative look at the ester and what specifically it does to a steroid. Let's look at testosterone for example. One can find compounds like testosterone cypionate, enanthate, propionate, heptylate; caproate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate, decanoate, acetate, the list goes on and on.
In all such cases the parent hormone is testosterone, which had been modified by adding an ester enanthate, propionate etc. The following question arises: What is the difference between the various esterified versions of testosterone in regards to their use in bodybuilding? An ester is a chain composed primarily of carbon and hydrogen atoms.
This chain is typically attached to the parent steroid hormone at the 17th carbon position beta orientation , although some compounds do carry esters at position 3 for the purposes of this article it is not crucial to understand the exact position of the ester. This happens because the ester will notably lower the water solubility of the steroid, and increase its lipid fat solubility.
This will cause the drug to form a deposit in the muscle tissue, from which it will slowly enter into circulation as it is picked up in small quantities by the blood. Generally, the longer the ester chain, the lower the water solubility of the compound, and the longer it will take to for the full dosage to reach general circulation. Slowing the release of the parent steroid is a great benefit in steroid medicine, as free testosterone or other steroid hormones previously would remain active in the body for a very short period of time typically hours.
This would necessitate an unpleasant daily injection schedule if one wished to maintain a continuous elevation of testosterone the goal of testosterone replacement therapy. By adding an ester, the patient can visit the doctor as infrequently as once per month for his injection, instead of having to constantly re-administer the drug to achieve a therapeutic effect.
Esterification temporarily deactivates the steroid molecule. With a chain blocking the 17th beta position, binding to the androgen receptor is not possible it can exert no activity in the body.
In order for the compound to become active the ester must therefore first be removed. This automatically occurs once the compound has filtered into blood circulation, where esterase enzymes quickly cleave off hydrolyze the ester chain.
This will restore the necessary hydroxyl OH group at the 17th beta position, enabling the drug to attach to the appropriate receptor. Now and only now will the steroid be able to have an effect on skeletal muscle tissue. You can start to see why considering testosterone cypionate much more potent than enanthate makes little sense, as your muscles are seeing only free testosterone no matter what ester was used to deploy it.
Esters vary only in their ability to reduce a steroid's water solubility. An ester like propionate for example will slow the release of a steroid for a few days, while the duration will be weeks with a decanoate ester. Esters have no effect on the tendency for the parent steroid to convert to estrogen or DHT dihydrotestosterone: Any differences in results and side effects that may be noted by bodybuilders who have used various esterified versions of the same base steroid are just issues of timing.
Given an equal blood level of testosterone, there would be no difference in the rate of aromatization or DHT conversion between different esters. There is simply no mechanism for this to be possible. There is however one way that we can say an ester does technically effect potency; it is calculated in the steroid weight. The heavier the ester chain, the greater is its percentage of the total weight.
In the case of testosterone enanthate for example, mg of esterified steroid testosterone enanthate is equal to only mg of free testosterone. If we wanted to be really picky, we could consider enanthate slightly MORE potent than cypionate I know this goes against popular thinking as its ester chain contains one less carbon atom therefore taking up a slightly smaller percentage of total weight. Propionate would of course come out on top of the three, releasing a measurable but not significant amount more testosterone per injection than cypionate or enanthate.
Esters work in a well-understood and predictable manner, and do not alter the activity of the parent steroid in any way other than to delay its release. Although the lure surrounding various steroid products like testosterone cypionate, Sustanon, Omnadren etc.
Testosterone is testosterone and anyone who is going to tell you one ester form of this or any hormone is much better than another one should do a little more research, and a lot less talking.
The "king" of testosterone blends. The four different testosterone esters in this product certainly look appealing to the consumer, there is no denying that. But for the athlete I think it is all just a matter of marketing Hell, why buy one ester when you can get four? In clinical situations I can see some strong uses for it. If you were undergoing testosterone replacement therapy for example, you would probably find Sustanon a much more comfortable option than testosterone enanthate.
You would need to visit the doctor less frequently for an injection, and blood levels should be more steadily maintained between treatments. But for the bodybuilder who is injecting 4 ampules of Sustanon per week, there is no advantage over other testosterone products.
Bodybuilders should probably stop looking at the four ester issue, and stick with totals Sustanon is just a mg testosterone ampule. If you could get nearly double the milligram amount for the same price with enanthate, this is the better product to go with hands down.
Leave the high priced stuff for the guys who don't know any better. Acetate esters delay the release of a steroid for only a couple of days. Contrary to what you may have read, acetate esters do not increase the tendency for fat removal. Again, there is no known mechanism for it to do so. This ester is used on oral primobolan tablets metenolone acetate , Finaplix trenbolone acetate implant pellets, and occasionally testosterone.
Also referred to as Carboxyethane; hydroacrylic acid; Methylacetic acid; Ethylformic acid; Ethanecarboxylic acid; metacetonic acid; pseudoacetic acid; Propionic Acid. Propionate esters will slow the release of a steroid for several days.
To keep blood levels from fluctuating greatly, propionate compounds are usually injected two to three times weekly. Testosterone propionate and methandriol dipropionate two separate propionate esters attached to the parent steroid methandriol are popular items.
Also referred to as Propionic Acid Phenyl Ester. Phenylpropionate will extend the release of active steroid a few days longer than propionate. To keep blood levels even, injections are given at least twice weekly.
Durabolin is the drug most commonly seen with a phenylpropionate ester nandrolone phenylpropionate , although it is also used with testosterone in Sustanon and Omnadren. Also referred to as Isocaproic Acid; isohexanoate; 4-methylvaleric acid. Isocaproate begins to near enanthate in terms of release. The duration is still shorter, with a notable hormone level being sustained for approximately one week.